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Two Popes Left Till the End of the World
04.09.05 (5:16 pm)   [edit]
Edit: Followed up on here, because as many of you by now know, the Pope's name is Benedict.

So sayeth the lord. Well, not really, but so sayeth Saint Malachy. This is the first time I've heard of this, but then again I don't usually look into this sort of thing.


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Prophecy on Pope Fulfilled by Eclipses?


A 10th Century Irish bishop - St. Malachy - predicted every pope that would preside over the Catholic Church.


Almost ten centuries ago, Malachy predicted this pope would be noted by an eclipse of the sun.


In an eerie coincidence, John Paul II was the only known pope to be born on the day of a solar eclipse.


But the prophetic link doesn't end there. Pope John Paul II will be buried this Friday during another solar eclipse.



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Astronomers say that on Friday, the day of the Pope's funeral, a partial solar eclipse will blot out most of the sun and darken a wide area of the world, from the South Pacific to the Western Hemisphere.



Solar eclipses are not unusual. But what makes this coming Friday's eclipse notable is the fact that there was a near total eclipse of the sun seen across Europe on May 18, 1920, the very day that John Paul II was born in Poland.




Adding fuel to the arcane speculation about these events is the prophecy of St. Malachy.


Malachy was discovered to have left behind a prophetic list of all future popes beginning with Pope Celestine II, whose papacy began in 1143 A.D., up to and including the 112th. The list includes John Paul and just two more popes who will follow him.


In his list of popes, he uses a single line in Latin identifying a characteristic of each pope.


The description applied to the 110th pope on his list - John Paul II - is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse), which seems to add great weight to the validity of St. Malachy’s chilling prophecy: that the next two popes chosen to succeed John Paul II will be the last popes.



After the reign of the last pope, "Peter the Roman," St. Malachy wrote, Rome will be destroyed.


So this should be fun. The guy's successfully predicted every Pope up until now. You can give me all that postdiction stuff you want, but just let me believe this for a while.


So I look up the next prediction on wikipedia and get this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_ Popes" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_ Popes" target="_blank"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...



Following John Paul II, only two popes remain in the prophecy. The next motto is Gloria Olivae, the glory of the olive. This motto has led to speculation that the next pontiff will be from the Order of Saint Benedict or will at least choose Benedict as his papal name. Others think that "olive" may mean that the new pope is somehow connected to Israel, because St. Malachy is known to have used the name "Olive" for that region. Also, Our Lady of Guadaloupe is described as being "olive-skinned" as are the peoples of Central America; several papabili currently hail from that area. Alternatively, less specific interpreters have predicted that the next pope will promote world peace. The self-proclaimed Pope Clemente Domínguez y Gómez of the Palmarian Catholic Church claimed that he was the glory of the olive.


It's a little easier to see how these predictions can be interpreted in any number of ways lending less credibility to them. "Promotes peace"? Come on, he's da freakin' pope. Now this olive-skinned thing seem pretty likely. There's all that talk about a South American pope. I don't know if any of the Papal candidates are from the Order of Saint Benedict, but there's gotta be one. As for Israel, I have not heard of a single plausible candidate for Pope from Israel, so I'm wondering how loose the term "connections" is in this case.


So if we get a South American pope who takes the name Benedict who has connections to Israel, remember Saint Malachy.

 


posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 04.11.05 (9:13 am)

Actually, the so-called "Prophesies of St. Malachi" are generally recognized as a forgery written some six hundred years after Malachi's death. And the attempt to tie those eclipses to Malachi's description of John Paul II, "Of the Labors of the Sun," is rather lame.



posted by: DrForbush (reply)
post date: 04.11.05 (1:21 pm)

Actually, you are wrong about the eclipse being on the Friday that he was burried. It's actually on April 19 which is eight days from today. It's also insignificant because it is a partial eclipse over South Africa and Antarctica. I would guess your claim of the Pope being born during an eclipse is also wrong.


http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/OH2004.html#SE2004Apr19P




posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.12.05 (1:49 pm)

Reply to: DrForbush

First of all, these are not my claims. Secondly, they appear to be correct. You're looking at 2004 instead of 2005.

http://www.hermit.org/Eclipse/2005-04-08/
http://www.hermit.org/Eclipse/gen_stats.cgi

The second link may not show up right, but if you type 1920 into the years to search, you'll see there was an eclipse May 18, 1920, the day John Paul II was born.



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.12.05 (1:52 pm)

Reply to: newbie

I have heard the theory that they are a forgery, but I haven't heard that they are generally regarded as such.

Laboris Solis also means solar eclipse.



posted by: LynnKramer (reply)
post date: 04.14.05 (2:51 pm)

Additionally, no where is it prophesied that the end of the world in then, only that there will be signs, that the end is near. the end of the world will happen as in the bible in revelations and others. but i do find the subject facinating. remember no man, not even the son of god himself knows the hour of the coming end. But there will be signs that you are in it or that it is coming soon. the distruction of rome, and the complete conversion of the russias are part of the signs and events that must happen 1st.



posted by: Convinced (reply)
post date: 04.19.05 (9:44 am)

Nice call on the Benedictine guess ...this St. Malachy or whoenver the author of the list was seems to spot on. We will need to be mindful of this on the next an final pope.



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.19.05 (5:06 pm)

Reply to: LynnKramer

A whole book on it? Wow. I've really done no research on it apart from going to wikipedia, so you've convinced me it's not a forgery. Of course, whether or not it's accurate is the big issue.



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.19.05 (5:08 pm)

Reply to: Convinced

Yeah. I was betting on a Latin American pope and then you'd have to stretch the prophecy a little more, but this Benedict thing is more straightforward.




posted by: Stephen (reply)
post date: 04.19.05 (7:10 pm)

Very interesting indeed.



posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 04.19.05 (10:18 pm)

Interesting. Pope Benedict. Now what do we think? Coincidence? Also...think about revelations. What if their predictions aren't meant to have occurred in quick succession, but over a great, long period of time...just a list of things that will occur before the end of the world. Think about it: Rome (as they knew it when the bible was written) already WAS destroyed. And the Russias have been converted--away from Christianity during the Communist era. Thoughts?



posted by: Phil (reply)
post date: 04.20.05 (7:45 am)

I was looking over this article all day. Then done more surfing in regards to end of the world, and http://www.thebookofrevelations.cc is explaining not about immediate wars danger, but about a natural disaster danger. In St Malachi's article I see nothing about America not being superpower, in fact it's not even discussed... leads me to ask the question: If Europe be attacked, and USA still intact, would it not join as allies or jump to rescue Europe?
On the other hand, I do see how unbelievably close to accuracy this is (minus the math of it all, numbers and years has never been a strong point to prove). And last but not least, the Koran refers to end of the world as 2280. http://www.submission.org/end.html

so which versions do we believe? I mentioned Koran's version because if world war would break out in 2009, then world may end sooner than 2437 as specified in this article about St Malachi...



posted by: Phil (reply)
post date: 04.20.05 (8:15 am)

let me annex this about year 2437 found at this location http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.20.05 (12:54 pm)

Reply to: newbie

We'll only really know when it happens. For ages man has tried to link events that happened prior to him with the book of Revelations which is why so many generations have been convinced that the world would end in their lifetime.

Rome as St. Malachy knew it had been sacked since his death, but he said it would be during or after the papacy of Peter the Roman.



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.20.05 (1:01 pm)

Reply to: Phil

I hate to put dates with the end of the world. No man knows when it will end, which is why I don't like that 2437. The History Channel did a show on predictions of the end of the world not too long ago, and many a men have had their own calculations to come up with the end of the world, and many a men have been wrong.

I don't see any wars happening in Europe in the forseeable future. The only emerging superpowers are China and potentially Russia, India, or Brazil. None of which are in Europe. The destruction of Rome, as I see it, would have to be a natural disaster.

However, I'd give till the end of the 2nd pope's papacy at max 40 years. If you asked people in Europe around 1900 if they could see the continent utterly devastated by some of the worst fighting mankind had ever seen not once, but twice in the next 50 years, they'd probably just laugh at you.



posted by: Dumbed Down American (reply)
post date: 04.28.05 (9:38 am)

Reply to: Defensor
Why stop at using Wikipedia or History Channel as an infallible reference. You could watch the new TV show on the subject (Revelations) or watch the movies made about it -- Seveth Sign etc. Clearly no man knows the hour of the end of the world ... but Hollywood and internet sites do. Are there any references to the WMD in the writings of St. Malachy. Maybe we'll find them there. Maybe we should make a preemptive strike to end the world now.



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.28.05 (12:41 pm)

Reply to: Dumbed

Are you seriously referring me to TV shows and movies? Encyclopedias and educational channels like the History Channel have proven to be much more reliable.

I don't know the end of the world, and I've said that no man knows the end of the world.

I have never claimed to "know" anything on this subject. I just SUSPECT that if a Pope is elected after Benedict that fits the Peter the Roman description well, then the end could be NEAR.



posted by: Dumbed down american (reply)
post date: 04.29.05 (3:55 am)

Reply to: Defensor
Actually in case you missed my sarcasm, I was suggesting you rely on common sense. I would believe about 1/2 of what I've read in some online "encyclopedia" and even less of what I've seen on TV, INCLUDING the history channel. BTW does Nostradamus agree with St. Malachy, I recently watched an eye opening show on the history channel which demonstrated how many of his predictions have come true. (dont miss sarcasm)

I think its important to think before you POST something with the title "two more popes until the end of the world" There are a lot of gullible people out there who start thinking what a blogger says is truth.

"well cleetus, I read it on that there inter-ma-net it must be true"



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 04.29.05 (1:16 pm)

Reply to: Dumbed

Tell me what exactly about this "encyclopedia's" article on St. Malachy that you don't believe. I don't think you can give me a rational answer without contradicting yourself.

I saw a lot of that History Channel special on Nostradamus, and most of it was about his life not his predictions. Of course, it did mention how his predictions have come true but it also mentioned that it could be due to their vagueness and each individual's interpretation.

I don't think there is anybody out there who takes what I have to say as the word of God. All I have done is shone light on St. Malachy's predictions. If someone is taking what I've said here as the truth, they aren't listening to me, they're listening to St. Malachy. A title is meant to grasp your attention. I'm not going to base my blog around people who read the title of a blog, take it as the word of God, and ignore the rest of the blog. As far as I know, nobody has done that.



posted by: girl4christ (reply)
post date: 04.30.05 (10:13 am)

I think we all need to take a step back and look at this page. You're all so caugth up in your own worriedness, that you aren't getting down to the real problem. We just need to rely on God. He's the only one who knows when the end of the world is. Trust Him! I promise, it's the best thing to do. Don't worry about the "end of the world", unless you know that it means trouble for you. In that case, accept Him as your Savior! You won't know all of the answers, but the world will make a whole lot more sense. Don't worry, just trust. That's all I have to say.



posted by: newbie (reply)
post date: 05.19.05 (7:36 pm)

Someone 400 years after St. Malachi's death decided to take credit for the predictions that were ongoing. Well the man's been right so far but I can understand how some people could get a little worried about it. some of us will see the end especially if Pope Benedict lasts as long as Pope John Paul I or even if he lasts longer we all have a good chance to see the end of the world



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post date: 06.07.05 (12:43 pm)

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