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"Soldiers dying in Iraq are dying to defend the US against terrorism as a victory in Iraq is a victory in the war on terror. They are dying to defend freedom and democracy in the US and to spread freedom and democracy to Iraq. They are dying for the interests of the US, her allies, and by extension, all Americans (whether they understand it or not). They are not dying for Haliburton, oil, or any other ridiculous shit / slant the anti-war types or conspiracy theorists want to spin. Haliburton is a company (among many others, both US and foreign) that seized a chance to profit in REBUILDING Iraq. There is a big difference between that and war-profiteering. Haliburton did not start the war, terrorists and those that support them did. Putting the chicken before the egg just won’t fly." -polymath

"[B]efore you [Europeans] write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola than a biscotti into an espresso - and who inexplicably have won more Nobel prizes than all other countries combined, host 25 or 30 of the world's finest universities and five or six of the world's best symphonies, produce wines that win prizes at your own tasting competitions, have built the world's most vibrant economy, are the world's only military superpower and, so to speak in our spare time, have landed on the moon and sent our robots to Mars - may I suggest you stop frothing at the mouth long enough to consider just what are these ideas we hold that you find so silly and repugnant?"
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Not One Red Cent
01.15.05 (11:29 am)   [edit]

I realize this has been out there for a while, but I just found it.  I'm glad to see liberals are getting more innovative.  I think I'll comment on each little bit, just because I can.


http://www.notoneredcent.com/boycott/Bush.asp" title="http://www.notoneredcent.com/boycott/Bush.asp" target="_blank"http://www.notoneredcent.com/...




NOT ONE RED CENT DAY


Since our leaders don't have the moral courage to speak out against the war in Iraq, Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One Red Cent Day" in America.


Really?  I seem to remember a certain election year in which half of our leaders did nothing but speak out against the war in Iraq.  But then again, what do I know, I've only been blogging about it for an entire year.



On "Not One Red Cent Day" those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending.


So, does this include utilities?  Last time I checked the large utility companies were not liberal powerhouses.



 During "Not One Red Cent Day" please don't spend money, and don't use your credit card. Not one red cent for gasoline. Not one red cent for necessities or for impulse purchases. Nor toll/cab/bus or train ride money exchanges. Not one red cent for anything for 24 hours.


But without buying gasoline, the number of people attending protests will take a hit. 



 On "Not One Red Cent Day," please boycott Walmart, KMart and Target. Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter).


Am I the only one that expects people to just buy more the next day because they've exhausted even more of what they currently have?  Won't that offset any damage done?



 For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down. The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it.


Why retail industry?!?  Why did you lead us into an illegal and immoral war?!?



 "Not One Red Cent Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.


I like how international corporations was stuck in there.  Why would we want to hurt the international community as well?  I thought they were against the war?



 "Not One Red Cent Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home.


I wonder if a protest like this took place during WW2 when politicians put troops in harms way.  Some estimate?  I like how they didn't even cite a source, just told us that "some" estimate it to be that high.  For all we know 80,000 of those have died of natural causes.



 There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One Red Cent Day" you take action by doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed.


Finally, a protest for liberals too fat to attend protests....I know you guys are expecting me to say it, but I won't!



 For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one red cent, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.


All this end the war crap I could understand, but give America back to the people?  What does that have to do with anything?  What does that even mean? 


I filled out the survey wishing them luck, and then I stumbled upon other peoples' comments (half of which seem to be republicans).  I need a laugh, so lets take a look:



 Our country is turning into a 3rd world country. Where will the disaster relied money come from when we see more and more need for it in the US? Hopefully not to wealthy or from the Social Security money for retired people. (Seeing as how we are now considered a 3rd world country, I don't think we should be giving any more money)


 Not only am I Not spending One Damn Dime on the 20th I have had my cable service removed, I will not PAY to support a news mis-information system (cable news). I also encourage everyone to Drop Public Television and Radio and join with the hundreds of thousands now enjoying Sirius Radio. (looks like someone from Sirius found a place to advertise)


 In The Name of Allah Peace and Greetings, This makes more sense that ANYTHING I've seen so far! I'm on board 1000% I will be putting the info about this on my websites and yahoo groups! I really hope this catches fire with the people! Success to you in your efforts. Peace, Minister Salaam W. Allah (Considering muslims are a small minority, I like that the only god's name invoked by liberals was Allah)


 I wasn't able to vote because im only 16 but i would have voted against george w. bush. hes a fucking asshole. This kind of boycotting is a good idea. (I'm convinced)


So we'll probably end up with a couple thousand people max not spending anything on consumer goods that they'll probably just buy more of the next day.  There's nothing to worry about, but at least it'll be funny to watch.


I think I'll end with what snopes has to say.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/not1dime .asp" title="http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/not1dime .asp" target="_blank"http://www.snopes.com/politic...



 As a functional protest, this one is equally off the mark. Although a boycott can be an active form of protest (even though boycott participants are in effect doing nothing, they're following a course of action that directly affects the object of their protest), boycotts succeed by causing economic harm to their targets, thereby putting them out of business or at least requiring them to change their policies in order to remain in business. But the target of this boycott isn't an entity that has the power to bring about the desired resolution (i.e., the government) — those who will be economically harmed by it are innocent business operators and their employees. These people have no power to set U.S. foreign policy or recall troops from Iraq, but they're the ones who would have to pay the price for this form of protest, incurring all their usual overhead costs (e.g., lighting, heat, refrigeration) to keep their businesses open and paying employees' salaries, all the while taking in little or no income. (And no, it doesn't all even out in the end — restaurants, for example, aren't going to recoup their lost business through boycott participants' eating twice as much the next day.)


 

 


posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 01.17.05 (4:31 pm)

Reply to: kurtmaddox

The Bush administration, Congress, and everybody else were mislead by intelligence. Maybe Iraq was a mistake, but by ousting Saddam we've done more good than bad.

I do believe my god is the true god, but I don't care if other people don't. The only reason I pointed out Allah was because I found it curious that the only religion the hardcore left finds acceptable is Islam.



posted by: April (reply)
post date: 01.17.05 (4:37 pm)

cause it's all in my head, cause i think about it over and over again...

may this song now be stuck in your head..



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 01.19.05 (11:27 am)

Reply to: kurtmaddox

"Of course you do and of course you don't. I guess if you are right then that is very good for you and very bad for rest of the 95% of humanity."

What are you trying to say? If I were atheist that would be very bad for 100% of humanity.

I see that you have changed the hardcore left to just the left. If you take hardcore out of it, that completely changes everything. Certainly you'll agree that the percent of Christians in the moderate lefty category is much higher than in the radical lefty group.

When I say hardcore left, I'm not talking about your coal miner that just watches the news and wants better healthcare. I'm talking about the protesters on our streets holding palestinian flags and yelling about Bush being Hitler.

Radical lefties as a general rule are anti-Judeo Christianity. Look at the ACLU, an organization sitting on the far left, and it's constantly attacking Christianity. If you paid attention to any of the political rhetoric this past election season, you'd see the anti-Christian statements. I could point you to some of the hardcore lefties on tblog to prove my point.

I am not some crazy religious nut, I just believe in God, is that so bad?



posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 01.25.05 (4:07 pm)

Reply to: kurtmaddox

"Why would being an "atheist" be bad for 100% of humanity? Please explain!"

I assume that when you say my beliefs are bad for 95% of the world, that had something to do with all the "non-believers" going to hell. So if I were atheist, the entire earth is doomed to eternal non-existence.


Where do you come off thinking I'm some self-righteous religious zealot who's damning everybody else to a lifetime of suffering? I never even said I was Christian. You just assumed I was just like you're assuming all this other stuff crap. You don't even know my religion let alone whether I'm out slaughtering heathens. The whole reason anybody believes in any religion is because they think it's the right one. How can I be Christian/Muslim/Jewish/Hindu/etc. without believing my god/gods is/are the right one(s)? Can anyone believe in anything without pissing you off? I already told you I don't care if you worship another god. As long as you don't don't hurt anybody, I could care less what, how, or why you worship.


"Why bother so much with .001% of political views? Hitler is now used by the left in exact same way that conservatives have used the "communist" charge against liberals for decades..."

For one, I am not bothering so much with them. I made one little remark about Allah and you jumped all over me. That ".001%" happens to be the most vocal so I will focus on them if I choose.

Conservatives use communist to mean anti-American and liberals use Hitler to mean genocidal maniac. There's a little bit of a difference. Not to mention liberals, or at least the vocal ones getting all the attention, often are communists. It's impossible for a conservative to be Hitler. That's why being called fascist doesn't bug me too much.

Saddam was a threat. Imminent threat, not really, even though he was planning attacks on the U.S. However, the only important people to really call the threat imminent were McLellan, who's just a press secretary, and Cheney, who's crazy. We may have been wrong about Iraq if by we you mean Americans and many foreign leaders both for and against the war, not just republicans. We did hold people accountable for intelligence failures, and liberals went crazy because we were blaming the intelligence community for intelligence failures rather than Bush.

Bush had been very clear about why we were going to Iraq. Sure, the WMDs are not in Iraq, but he's never changed the reason for going in. You can't hold it against him to justify the war for other reasons.


"Well, you are the one changing your story. It isn't true that you "just believe in God". You believe that you understand a truth about God that 90% of the..."

I just believe in God. What do you believe? That there is no god/gods? Do you understand some truth everybody else doesn't, or are you some arrogant, elitist atheist? I never said anyone who doesn't believe as I do will burn in hell for eternity. That's another one of your assumptions. I don't know what you mean by God has picked my side, but seeing as how I worship him, that would seem logical, now wouldn't it?


"The ACLU often defends Christians as well when their civil liberties have been violated...."

I didn't say they didn't take up the occasional Christian case. They are still constantly attacking Christianity, be it through the pledge, Scouts, schools, etc.


" i don't think you are "crazy" or a "nut" and didn't claim that you were. i just think you are a narrow minded and self-righteous religious elitist who believes that christians have some special claim...."

I like your view that people who believe in a god are narrow minded religious elitists. Please, explain how you arrived at this conclusion. But remember, you can only go off what I have said. Absolutely no assuming anything.


"What's your point? What difference does the label "Christian" make in the context of political philosophy? Why is a Christian leftist different from any other leftist? A right wing idealogue is just that...."

My point, if you look back at my bolded comment, is that I found it curious that there were no Christian leftists, only a muslim leftist, which is strange considering how few muslims there are in the U.S. and how prominent Christianity is. If you want to turn that into a statment of cleansing the world of infidels, then you need to stop overanalyzing everything I say. There are no hidden meanings, just what's written.




posted by: Defensor (reply)
post date: 01.28.05 (6:17 pm)

Reply to: kurtmaddox

I figured if I were going to write a lot, it might as well be in blog format so other people can see it and this isn't being wasted in the little tucked away comment window.

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